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Old 02-09-2013, 11:18 PM
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The same phenomenon is true in our legal and justice systems.

The bottom line is that our country is still pretty racist. And sexist. And classist.
AMEN!!! If this data has been proven in regards to every facet of the legal system (like the drug sentences/Fair Sentencing Act, death penalty stats)...driving while black, etc...there's no doubt racial profiling and discrimination exists in schools as well.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:01 AM
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Sadly I understand much of the article to be accurate. I don't think black students are targeted...I think many make themselves impossible to ignore.

This is not to say I agree with the entire article (such as the point about seeing a black student and knowing there would be issues) and it's certainly not implying all black students present behavior issues and that all behavior issues come from black students. But if there are very high numbers regarding black students and discipline, maybe there is a reason other than discrimination. Actually, not maybe...for sure there is.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:22 PM
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Sadly I understand much of the article to be accurate. I don't think black students are targeted...I think many make themselves impossible to ignore.

This is not to say I agree with the entire article (such as the point about seeing a black student and knowing there would be issues) and it's certainly not implying all black students present behavior issues and that all behavior issues come from black students. But if there are very high numbers regarding black students and discipline, maybe there is a reason other than discrimination. Actually, not maybe...for sure there is.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:16 AM
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I've thought long and hard about what the author states. I find most of it very accurate (I can speak from my own past experiences). I found myself nodding my head as I was reading each paragraph...
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:02 PM
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Let's be REALISTIC

The posts I'm reading are hilarious, yet not surprising. Are all of you that brain-washed? Let's be realistic here. Whether we are talking school behavior or street crime, blacks simply commit more offenses. Period. Too many people worried about being labeled "racist". The numbers don't lie and they're not biased. Only a liberal would think otherwise. What troubles me most are people who are claiming biased numbers, etc, yet they choose NOT to live in a black neighborhood, for example. Or send their own kids to predominantly black schools. Wow, can you say HYPOCRITE! My question is, do you really believe what you type or are you trying to be politically correct? Is the answer is the former, then you are simply brain-washed, most likely from the ultra liberal college professors who like to dish out "White guilt". Wake up people. Oh, and if you believe what you say, at least don't be a hypocrite. Move into that black neighborhood and send your kids to black schools. Yup, didn't think so. I'll tell you one thing, at least I have the b*lls to see reality and not to give into being politically correct. Geez, what a world this had become. Pathetic.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:09 PM
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I live in a black/hispanic neighborhood, thanks. I don't have kids, but if I did, they would be going to my local school.

I would say more, but there's no point in arguing with an immature, internet troll.
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:27 PM
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I live in a black/hispanic neighborhood, thanks. I don't have kids, but if I did, they would be going to my local school.

I would say more, but there's no point in arguing with an immature, internet troll.
Troll or REALIST? Typical. You don't agree, so call names. By the way, we're not talking about Hispanics. They (Hispanics) also have a much lower suspension rate than blacks, but of course that's not what is focused on in the article. They only like using Whites to compare. Funny, Asians have an even lower suspension rate than Whites, but they're not mentioned or being compared to. It's okay, keep your heads in the sand.
By the way, the rates are consistent across every single city in the US. I guess every single city and their schools are biased. Yeah, that MUST be it. What else, right?
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:15 PM
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[QUOTE=AnthonyA;1731105]The posts I'm reading are hilarious, yet not surprising. Are all of you that brain-washed? Let's be realistic here. Whether we are talking school behavior or street crime, blacks simply commit more offenses. Period. Too many people worried about being labeled "racist". The numbers don't lie and they're not biased. Only a liberal would think otherwise. What troubles me most are people who are claiming biased numbers, etc, yet they choose NOT to live in a black neighborhood, for example. Or send their own kids to predominantly black schools. Wow, can you say HYPOCRITE! My question is, do you really believe what you type or are you trying to be politically correct? Is the answer is the former, then you are simply brain-washed, most likely from the ultra liberal college professors who like to dish out "White guilt". Wake up people. Oh, and if you believe what you say, at least don't be a hypocrite. Move into that black neighborhood and send your kids to black schools. Yup, didn't think so. I'll tell you one thing, at least I have the b*lls to see reality and not to give into being politically correct. Geez, what a world this had become. Pathetic.

I've noticed that as well.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:21 PM
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My best friend is black. He says there are few male father figures in most households in his neighborhood. How about we quit blaming teachers on the problems of the world and start talking openly and honestly. That's how problems begin to be solved. I'm sick of political correctness.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:59 PM
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When I worked in a school with a high African American population, I found that the kids didn't disrespect me as long as I was respectful to them. That's a very simplified explanation, but it's more or less the jist of it.
Exactly. I work in a school that is 99% African American. I have had the same experience as you.

Children can sense adult attitudes, even if they are not overtly stated. When children feel supported and cared for, they respond in kind.

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The sad truth is that it is easier to teach when black students are not present. Silently, when I see black students walk into a class, I think to myself that it is going to be far more difficult than it should be to control this classroom.
This is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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